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Wednesday, September 22, 2010
A reply to the New York Times
The recent New York Times article regarding an error in breast cancer diagnosis, commented upon in several of my earlier blogs, continues to draw attention to the poorly understood fields of pathology and cancer biology.  Quite a few of you have commented to me privately about the issues involved and you also should feel free to post comments here. 
 
Dr. Diane Schecter, a pathologist in White Plains, NY, has tried to formally respond to the New York Times article in several venues, as of yet without success. This is unfortunate as a number of the issues in the article clearly need clarification or refutation.   She has written an Op Ed piece which I sincerely hope finds publication in the NYT, but even if it doesn't she has allowed me to share it here.  It is an excellent summary of who we are, what we try to do and the problems created by bad nomenclature leading to bad medicine. 
 
 
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Although this op-ed is obviously in response to your front page piece "Prone to Error: Earliest Steps to Find Cancer" by Stephanie Saul,  it provides information and and opinions that deserve to be heard. I am a surgical pathologist with 25 years experience. I attended Cornell University Medical College followed by seven years of residency in surgical pathology. Women need to know this.
 
To the Op-Ed Editor:
 
Although I do not believe the op-ed page of the New York Times is the most appropriate forum for a discussion of the complex issue of pre-cancerous breast lesions, recent negative press directed at general surgical pathologists compels me to make my voice heard. And the lack of an adequate response from leading pathology organizations has added to my determination to clarify several issues for the public.
 
First, some basic facts: Pathologists are physicians who render diagnoses based on microscopic examination of cells and tissues. It is the pathologist, not a surgeon or oncologist, who performs this vital task. A pathlogist attends medical school, followed by at least four years of residency. For most cancers, a patient's diagnosis is based largely on the pathologist's findings.
 
With the advent of mammography, pre-cancerous lesions of the breast became an increasingly important category of breast pathology.  Ductal lesions can roughly be categorized along a continuum from duct hyperplasia (benign) through atypical duct hyperplasia (ADH - a borderline lesion) to ductal carcinoma in situ ( DCIS, a cancer confined to the breast ducts, meaning it is not invasive.) Seems straightforward right? In practice it is not. That is the truth, although it is uncomfortable for both patients and surgeons to accept. Yes, many cases are straightforward, but many are not. In this, the work of the pathologist does not differ from that of colleagues in clincal medicine. A pathologist's diagnosis is based on knowledge and experience applied to a specific patient.
 
Numerous studies have shown that even the most experienced pathology experts disagree on the diagnosis of pre-cancerous breast lesions in a significant proportion of cases. Yet, the medical community continues to treat these lesions as totally distinct entities with radically different therapies. Too little attention has been paid to the controversy over how some of these borderline breast lesions should be treated and the suggestion by some that they are over treated. Currently, ADH and low-grade DCIS are treated in radically different ways. Clinical medicine needs to accept the reality of grey-zone (borderline) diagnoses and modify therapy accordingly. This is an aspect of breast cancer care that the public needs to know about and which, ultimately, is much more important than any erroneous perception of pathologist "error."
 
Meanwhile, surgeons need to explain to patients the continuum concept and emphasize that pre-cancerous lesions are just that: they are not invasive cancer. There is a pervasive hysteria and panic in this country about breast cancer that is fueled in part by advocacy groups. This hysteria has found its way to patients with pre-cancerous lesions as well. This hysteria is harmful to patients. Surgeons need to send their cases to pathologists they trust, based on experience, and they need to communicate that trust to their patients. Patients should be encouraged to speak to their pathologists if there are questions not answered by their surgeons. Pathologists need to be more visable and accessible.
 
It is not my intention to deny that occasionally pathology mistakes are made. But the insinuation that pathologists regularly misdiagnose pre-cancerous breast lesions is unfounded. There are scattered studies, some by individual pathologists, indicating "misdiagnoses" and others indicating differences of opinion. Other studies indicate a high level of agreement when breast cases are reviewed. Heresay, "personal communications" and "estimates" of error rates are not the way medicine is evaluated.
 
Pathologists are not known to be an outspoken group. In fact, they are so quiet most patients do not even know they exist. But everyone has their limit. And this was mine.
 
Diane J. Schecter, M.D.
Staff Pathologist
White Plains Hospital Medical Center
White Plains, New York

 
10/5/2010
Diane J. Schecter said:
Diane J. Schecter said: Thank you Dr. Eisen for your comments. I would also like to suggest that all surgical pathologists read the 2006 Komen White Paper, " Why Current Breast Pathology Practices Must be Evaluated," especially the sections on "Accuracy,Specialization and Second Opinions." Critically read some of the references at the end. Do they support the conclusions of the White Paper? What is the White Paper really based on? Diane J. Schecter, M.D.
10/3/2010
Richard Eisen said:
Diane: Your reply to the NY Times article is well written, concise and to the point. I hope that your voice and those of others are heard by both the pathology, oncology and medical communities at large as well as the public. Richard N. Eisen, MD
9/29/2010
Stanley J. Schneller said:
Thank you Drs. Ramrakhiani and Vighi for your comments. Pathologists need to speak out on this issue in every venue they can think of. Write to the Times and the author of the article. Let them know how you feel. Contact your pathology organizations and make your voices heard! Diane J. Schecter, M.D.
9/28/2010
Susana Vighi said:
Although I am a pathologist in Buenos Aires, Argentina, I totally agree with your letter. It is a reality that pathologist´s cannot doubt. We must allways say it's black or white; some well known surgeons deny a "grey reply". Your letter is very good and should be published in the New York Times, although I doubt that they will! Susana Vighi MD. PHD Chief of the Department of Pathology Buenos Aires University Hospital Buenos Aires Argentina
9/23/2010
Dr. dilip ram said:
Thanks Dr. Schecter for your comments. I wish that the general public would realize with the help of your article that medicine is not mathematics or computer science, and hence things are not always 'black ' or 'white' in medicine but often are 'shades of grey.' We have both art & science in medicine. If medicine were a purely objective science like mathematics, I think pathologists would have long been replaced by computers running diagnostic algorithms. And as Dr. Mills rightly said the "bad "nomenclature requires surgeon/patient communication by the pathologist so that ultimately the language of pathology is conveyed to them in both the letter and the spirit for "good" medicine to be practiced. The pathologist is as dedicated to the Hippocratic oath of "DO NO HARM" as any other physician and would (should) seek a second opinion on not so straightforward cases before signing them out. But differences of diagnostc opinion would still persist even among subspecialty experts, and probably always will. Dilip Ramrakhiani, M.D.
About the Author

Stacey E. Mills, MD
Stacey E. Mills, MD, a graduate of University of Virginia (UVA) and the UVA Medical Center, has authored nearly 230 articles, 20+ books, atlases and monographs—including the renowned Sternberg's Diagnostic Surgical Pathology. He has been a practicing Professor and Staff Pathologist at UVA for 30+ years and is Director of Surgical Pathology and Cytopathology. His clinical specialty is general surgical pathology with emphasis on neoplasms and neoplasm-like lesions. Dr. Mills is also Editor-in-Chief of The American Journal of Surgical Pathology.